This year´s Nordica Race range has everything you might expect from a well known manufacturer. Although the brand wants us to believe they´ve got a lot more skis than they are really offering. The whole Race range is divided into three sections: Pro, Expert and Intermediate. Every ski maker chooses to classify their products in the way they believe users will understand the easiest. Nordica has gone one step further and these three sections will help users to make a better decision when they point to the Nordica´s Race range.
Let´s take a look at the three sections of the whole range:
Nordica Dobermann Spitfire EDT-N Pro Evo
Nordica Dobermann GS WC Plate
Nordica Dobermann SL WC Plate
Well, this one is pretty straight forward. The last two are the FIS compliant skis for GS and SL skis from Nordica, plus the Spitfire EDT-N Pro Evo which no one really knows why is it here. It does not follow any FIS rule and while it seems to be a ski between the GS and SL soft line, it could well be an On-Piste regular ski with no other purpose than being an overall ski.
Having said this, the general public should avoid the GS and the SL models since they are only focused to competition, and I mean real competition. So those without a racing license go look somewhere else, you´ll waste time and money in an unthinkable manner if you go for these ones.
Nordica Dobermann GSR EDT-N Power Evo
Nordica Dobermann GSR EDT-N Pro Evo
Nordica Dobermann SLR-N Power Evo
Nordica Dobermann SLR-N Pro Evo
Nordica Dobermann Spitfire Pro-N Pro P.R.Evo
If you start counting, you will see we have five skis here. Well… nope. Nordica is offering three skis here, not five. There is a very good reason for that tiny little difference in the names. The only difference in the first two is the words Power and Pro. The same happens between the third and fourth models. The fifth is a different animal by its own rights. So… what is the difference between the Power model and the Pro one? Well… in short, it´s the same ski but different binding. Just that.
The Nordica Dobermann GSR EDT-N Power / Pro Evo is basically a friendly Giant Slalom ski for the masses. That said, this is a ski for expert skiers, so only those with a refined technique and many runs in their legs will be able to truly enjoy it. The same can be said for the Nordica Dobermann SLR-N Power / Pro Evo, but instead of being a Giant Slalom inspired ski, this takes the spirit from the Slalom discipline and brings it to you a bit softened for your full enjoyment.
The Nordica Spitfire Pro-N Pro P.R Evo is a ski with a very stupid name full of letters no one will ever remember. But yes, the spitfire thing is good. It is an overall ski with no compromise between long turns or short turns. As many others, it is left in no one´s land. A good choice for those who don´t want the drawbacks from the GS or the SL styles and like to play a bit of everything at will.
Nordica Dobermann Spitfire TI-N Pro P.R.Evo
Nordica Dobermann Spitfire CA-N ADV P.R.Evo
You will see four models in Nordica´s website. But no, there are just two. You can choose between colour lines in the Spitfire CA-N ADV P.R.Evo. And the difference between the Spitfire TI-N Pro P.R.Evo and its brother with the RTL added at the end of the name in the website´s url is just known in Nordica.
Aside from useless names, what are these two? Well, they are two all round On-Piste skis with a racing touch. One might think they are not very different from the On Piste offering from Nordica. Such an idea is not very right. Just take a look at their tails. Racing skis have always sharper tails, not roundy ones. The former being for skiers who carve their turns in a clean arch, the latter for skiers who don´t.
We haven´t dealed with anything related to Nordica´s technologies yet, and they got such a wide set in the Nordica Race range. Let´s take a look at them:
Disclaimer: Not all Nordica Race models share the same technologies. This is just a list of all the technologies used in each category. You may find skis that do no use all of them.
Energy 2 Titanium: Ever heard about titanium layers inside the skis? Yes, almost every single race ski in the market has some. So nothing new here. However, we should be thankful for the Nordica´s picture, since there we will really see how those skis are built. And yes, it´s different from the schema found in the Expert or Intermediate. So again, good and real information.
Comp 20.0 EPS / Comp 16.0 EPS: These are the binding systems to choose from. And guess what those numbers mean. They indicate the binding´s DIN. So, as you can understand from those numbers, these skis are only for real racers, not expert skiers nor even ski instructors.
Piston Plate: A real racing plate. Four subjection points, two of them being floating screws to allow free ski flex. Marker is the manufacturer, so as it´s been shown in other brands it has also a step underneath its back. It then leaves an empty space between itsef and the ski. This leaves room for the ski to freely bend when pushed hard. The only problem with this plate is the piston. Useless, silly and ugly. Please Nordica, take that off!
EVO R CT EDT GF: Who on earth thought about this name? For God´s sake, just fire the guy!
Now… what is this. This is related to the binding, plate and “arm” system. Yes, if one brand makes one step into one direction the other seem to have the need to follow it although it´s nonsense. So again, this is a copy of the Atomic´s Doubledeck. Is it Nordica´s interpretation really useful? Not really. If it really was, why is that you don´t see it on the GS or SL FIS models? Simple answer: because it doesn´t do anything more than pretending it does. More placebo for the masses.
Frontside Camrock – Rapid Race Profile: A fancy name for the traditional camber. And yes, it has also the rocker word at its tip. Why? Modern days, modern words.
EDT (Efficient Dynamic Technology): I will save you the pain to read all the crap and I´ll only mention the bit that really matters from Nordica´s own explanation: “…We accomplish this by securing a specially designed carbon alloy plate to the ski at reinforced attachment points to greatly reduce unwanted ski torsion.”
This EDT thing seems to be directly related to the EVO R CT EDT GF. But their explanation does not satisfy anyone´s needs. That layer looks like carbon, but… is it really made from carbon? And what does really offer a good torsion resistance? A carbon plate on the ski´s surface that does not cover the entire ski (just the 65% of it) or a good epoxy “welding” all the inner bits? Plastic crap speaks for itself, even with a fancy name.
Evo Energy 2 Titanium: This technology is just the titanium layers in the skis construction. See the picture for real and good information about how these skis are built.
Frontside Camrock – Rapid Race Profile: A fancy name for the traditional camber. And yes, it also has the rocker word at its tip. Why? Modern days, modern words.
EVO R CT EDT: More shitty plastic with a plastic name. Or was it a shitty name with a plastic shit onto the ski? Ok, I´ve got it now. In one word: Plastic. For more detailed info about plastic read what´s been explained above about the EVO R CT EDT GF technology.
EVO R CT: The real plate without the unneeded plastic (read carbon). It´s got rails in order to make the binding adjustment operation easier. It also has some cuts in the central part to facilitate the ski flex so the plastic doesn´t break. So a decent plate, designed with care and intelligence.
Frontside Camrock. Moderate Race Profile: A bigger tip in order to facilitate the beginning of the turns. And a tighter body to make things easier. That´s the idea behind that picture with an SL tip and a GS body. There is a big tip and a not very steep sidecut. But does this deserve a technology name on its own? Not really.
Evo Energy TI: It´s all about the construction method. Aside from having less wood in its inner core and only one sheet of metal, it is this last layer the one that is different from other models. It´s drilled everywhere so it is more prone to be easily bent, and at the same time it allows epoxy to spread everywhere and make a stronger connection between all the components. This time it is spring steel, not titanium.
Evo Energy CA: As mentioned above, this is again about the construction method. The inner metal layer (spring steel, not titanium) is not drilled as before. It also has one less layer of fiberglass. And that makes the skis made using this method less livelier and easier to handle.
Evo CT: Same thing as the Evo R CT found in the Expert category but with one less letter. What did you expect?
Albert: You had me going until I looked for a review that actually convinced me you actually skied any of the skis you write about.
I couldn’t find one.
I am skiing full time in Whistler.eh and demo many skis – almost all in the skinny categories – becaaause I Hate Fats.
My fat ski: I just bought a Head Monster 88 Graphene because it made me forget it was 88 under foot when I demo’d it last April.
The Race-Carvers all ski well and some are slightly better… but different from others ( Except for the Solomon X-race because early rise is BS )… Like my 2016 Fischer Worldcup RC4 RC’s ski better than the damp and too smooth 2015 Superiors and the older 2013 RC Pro’s. The 2013-14 Nordica Spitfire Pro with EDT is too damp compared to the more lively Spitfires without the EDT. The 2014-15 Firearrows and Spitfires I tried Without the EDT felt harsh at their limit… as did my 2013 Dynastar Course Ti’s; which felt harsh at the limit and made me worry about a high-side fling.
The 2016 Blizzard Firearrow 84 EDT is a carving machine and in the off-piste it might not be your friend. The 2014 G-Power and 2015 FS are great; I own a 167cm S-power and it is excellent as an all-day slalom. I do not think their pistons and ‘double-deck strip’ are BS. I think they work because all these skis are very smooth.. too smooth to explain just by variables in lay-ups.
I just sold my Nordica GS 186cm 27meter because 50mph is still first gear and smooth.. and then you think: 50mph !! with civilians and no run-inspection first ! So 13-15-17-21 meters are better – even in a beer league race course. I also sold my Atomic FIS slaloms: I only lasted a half day – twice – because they are too brutal for all-day skiing.
Here is a review I posted at Barking Bear Forums: It don’t matter much because I don’t think anyone reads my ski reviews there because they are NorthAmericans and think Fats are cool. I don’t think the members can ski very well. You can look up my other reviews if you find this one:
2016-17 Nordica Spitfire CA EVO 168cm. Prescience !
This may sound like I am making this up; like I only imagined I was actually in the future. I assure you; like Clarice Starling in ‘Contact’; I was outfitted and locked into the pod of the Japanese/Nordica machine, dropped into the spinning rings, and just disappeared… Arroway insists that she was gone for approximately 18 hours. I on the other hand could actually see r =15 meters farther into my future. Blow my mind, again.
At first this ski felt damp and slow and not very variable in its arc because they had a verrry flat base bevel; I would go to .5 or a bit more for a looser feel. This magically changed when I got tuned in and turned-on and passed through the hyper-space worm-hole and entered the world of the future. There I found this mag-lev space-ship …probably the BMW space-ship of the future-singularity. I added on more than a few Kph and the grip and beyond-damping PsychicBionics just took over as I imagined ‘my line’ projected into the near-future.
As 5,000-vert test-runs go it was a bit strange on Upper PeaktoCreek with some flat-fog-and-rime over a few cms of new, warmish, snow that was scraped off into some harder surface and a few afternoon lumps. And then we hit the valley fog which stuck to my goggles and obscured everything- but didn’t matter too much; these things are so smooth.
Factoids: Dealer day demos on the Dave Murray timing-flats. Nice rep named Vince. 168cm and a 15meter radius. Not sure of dimensions but 70-or so under foot. The Nordica EDT device is now a thing of the Past and now the body of the ski is Titanal with a Forebody and Tail of Carbon. What a package and even better damping. I was flying by wire. Amazing.
Me: 180lbs on a good day; 5’10. ‘Expert’ 150days/year. This year’s new ski is a Fischer RC4 RC 175cm… It is so good it deserves its own review: “Just a bit better; so I can be smug”.
ski sooon… we had 20cms in the alpine and more on the way.
Albert is really busy these days -we are preparing a really decent ski website for next December. I can’t answer any of your technical comments, but we really appreciate them.
You know how this is, every skier has his/her own perception about a ski or even an entire brand. I don’t know what he will tell you, but this article is an overall look at the entire Nordica Race range, not about a specific ski. Every specific model that has a dedicated article has been fully tested. I know this for a fact because I was there with him.
Now, your comment is exactly what is needed here: someone who has an educated opinion may agree or not with what we say, but he wants to ellaborate on his own experience with some skis. This is great, and please stay tuned because we want to give you the readers a place to state your opinions in a better place than the comments section of a blog post.
More on December…
Just a quick one: everyone loves his favourite brands or skis. And that’s cool. But it means that they will be pissed off when reading bad reviews of them. Specially if we had great days with them. Think this way: every ski manufacturer is capable of making a great ski in every category. We have the technology and design means. BUT we have to find a way to separate what is really good from what it’s not that good. We have to know that sometimes the brochure states things that are either wrong or misleading or a straight lie. The Völkswagen Golf GTI Mark I was one of the best cars ever made. The Golf Mark II, III, IV and V were shitty cars in comparison, up until the Golf VI. But all of them are great, great cars. But when everything is cool and great, we have to find a way to know where the real magic lives, despite we are very happy with our car -or our skis.
ooops… Change that from Blizzard Fierarrow to Nordica Firearrow please.
sorry again- messed my paragraphs- it should read better like this”
The 2013-14 Nordica Spitfire Pro with EDT is too damp compared to the more lively Spitfires without the EDT. The 2014-15 Firearrows and Spitfires I tried Without the EDT felt harsh at their limit… as did my 2013 Dynastar Course Ti’s; which felt harsh and made me worry about a high-side fling The 2016 Nordica Firearrow 84 EDT is a carving machine and in the off-piste it might not be your friend.
The 2014 Blizzard G-Power and 2015 FS are great; I own a 167cm S-power and it is excellent as an all-day slalom. I do not think their pistons and ‘double-deck strip’ are BS. I think they work because all these skis are very smooth.. too smooth to explain just by variables in lay-ups.